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john edwards and john kerry. then they came back and when the "was whether or not you provide them with the resources they needed, they voted against it. i couldn't figure out why that happened initially. and then i looked and figured out was howard dean was making major progress with the democratic primaries based on an anti-war record so they in effect decided they would cast an anti-war vote and they would vote against the troops. if they couldn't stand up to the pressures howard dean represented, how can we expect them to stand up to al qaeda. >> senator edwards, you have 90 seconds to respond. >> a long resume does not equal good judgment. we have seen over and over the misjudgments made by this administration. i want to go back to what the vice president just said because it's a continuation of the things they've been doing, unfortunately, on the campaign trail. a continuation of what began his first answer with tonight. john kerry has voted for the biggest military appropriations bill in the country's hist
john edwards and john kerry. then they came back and when the "was whether or not you provide them with the resources they needed, they voted against it. i couldn't figure out why that happened initially. and then i looked and figured out was howard dean was making major progress with the democratic primaries based on an anti-war record so they in effect decided they would cast an anti-war vote and they would vote against the troops. if they couldn't stand up to the pressures howard dean...
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in 2004, john kerry out-raised president bush, and we all know how that turned out. so i think, you know, yes, he raised a lot of money. the president, or, excuse me, governor romney has raised $12 million since wednesday. so it's been a shot in the arm for the romney campaign too. >> and that's online as well. >> it's 60% -- >> we're not talking about major donors. we're talking about people who saw his debate and liked what they saw. >> 60% of them are new donors. so i think the romney campaign is very pleased with this. and what you saw tuesday night in the debate, you took the money off the table, you had the president and governor trromney speaking unfiltered to the people, and people really liked what they heard from mitt romney. >> but some people might not consider exactly what mitt romney said as unfiltered. take a listen to what he said about cutting taxes for people during the republican primary compared to what he said on wednesday. let's play back two clips, so take a listen. >> nouumber one, i said today tt we're going to cut taxes on everybody across t
in 2004, john kerry out-raised president bush, and we all know how that turned out. so i think, you know, yes, he raised a lot of money. the president, or, excuse me, governor romney has raised $12 million since wednesday. so it's been a shot in the arm for the romney campaign too. >> and that's online as well. >> it's 60% -- >> we're not talking about major donors. we're talking about people who saw his debate and liked what they saw. >> 60% of them are new donors. so i...
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kerry beat up george w. bush in the first debate back if 2004. but it was clear that mitt romney got a big win because of his strong debate performance. >> or walter mondale on ronald reagan for that matter. onto the conspiracy theory, jared bernstein, we heard from him earlier, he told me also this doesn't deserve any oxygen at all but others keep piling on. are you surprised by these claims from prominent people, well-respected people in industry? >> well, there are two different sort of sets on the republican side here. one is the jack welch side, the steve forbes, the people who are promulgating this conspiracy. the others are the folks who are serious economists. you talk to jared bernstein on the left. but douglashall john mccain's former policy adviser says the same thing in a story this morning. elaine child the former george w. bush's labor secretary said the same thing. so serious republicans who understand that these are two totally different surveys, they sort of understand the process and the wa
kerry beat up george w. bush in the first debate back if 2004. but it was clear that mitt romney got a big win because of his strong debate performance. >> or walter mondale on ronald reagan for that matter. onto the conspiracy theory, jared bernstein, we heard from him earlier, he told me also this doesn't deserve any oxygen at all but others keep piling on. are you surprised by these claims from prominent people, well-respected people in industry? >> well, there are two different...
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again, a very competitive close race with john kerry for a long time. after the first debate george w. bush came down, a lot of people said that he was shaky in that debate, didn't answer a question about the iraq war very well and stabilized the race a little bit and in the end, in the final debate, look at this, almost tied coming in, bush starts to pull away with a strong last debate performance where he made a connection on faith. >> it's very personal. i pray for strength, i pray for which is dornlgs i pray for our troops in harp's way, i pray for my family. i pray for my little girls. prayer and religion sustain me. i receive calmness in the storms of the presidency. >> calmness in the storms of the presidency from george w. bush. he went on then from that debate to keep his lead and to win that election. >> and joining me now is cnn contributor and democratic strategist hillary rosen. hillary, good morning. both critics and support efforts of president obama say he was off in the debate. we've got numbers that simultaneously give the president a
again, a very competitive close race with john kerry for a long time. after the first debate george w. bush came down, a lot of people said that he was shaky in that debate, didn't answer a question about the iraq war very well and stabilized the race a little bit and in the end, in the final debate, look at this, almost tied coming in, bush starts to pull away with a strong last debate performance where he made a connection on faith. >> it's very personal. i pray for strength, i pray for...
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after months of intense debate practice with senator john kerry, president obama promises to be more aggressive and a lot tougher on mitt romney in the next debate. which explains obama's new debate coach, nicki minaj. [ laughter ] i'm afraid. i'm afraid of nicki minaj, yeah. some more political news. in a new interview, mitt romney said that he is against marijuana being used for recreational purposes. [ boos ] when stoners heard that, they were like, "well, what about just for fun? [ laughter ] can we use it for fun?" [ cheers and applause ] check this out. in a new interview, first lady michelle obama said that she would choose will smith or denzel washington to play her husband in a movie. or as democrats put that, "any way they can play him in a debate?" [ laughter ] thank you, yeah. thank you very much. i just heard about this. the olive garden is getting rid of its famous catchphrase, "when you're here, you're family." yeah. they're gonna start using a more appropriate catchphrase. "when you're here, the wait was too long at the cheesecake factory." [ laughter ] that's what th
after months of intense debate practice with senator john kerry, president obama promises to be more aggressive and a lot tougher on mitt romney in the next debate. which explains obama's new debate coach, nicki minaj. [ laughter ] i'm afraid. i'm afraid of nicki minaj, yeah. some more political news. in a new interview, mitt romney said that he is against marijuana being used for recreational purposes. [ boos ] when stoners heard that, they were like, "well, what about just for fun? [...
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kerry has nearly always done, find a way to win. >> you lie and not both endlessly. they don't have a name on it, john o'neill. >> hold that, hold that. >> you lied -- >> what about mr. carthy, mr. o'neill? >> i am appalled. >> and understand why you are screaming. you can't afford the truth. >> you never met -- >> cbs news has exclusive information including documents that now sheds new light on the president's service record. 60 minutes has obtained government documents that indicate mr. bush may have received preferential treatment in the guard after not filling his commitments. >> vote republican and you vote to enable george bush to keep rolling as an emperor, a child emperor. but an emperor. >> i have to tell you, as part of record in this case this election. the feeling most people when they hear barack obama speech, i feel that's going up my leg. i don't have that too often. it's a dramatic event. there's nothing to do with politics and has to do with the guy we have about our country. and that is an objective assessment. >> i read that she once took a psycho
kerry has nearly always done, find a way to win. >> you lie and not both endlessly. they don't have a name on it, john o'neill. >> hold that, hold that. >> you lied -- >> what about mr. carthy, mr. o'neill? >> i am appalled. >> and understand why you are screaming. you can't afford the truth. >> you never met -- >> cbs news has exclusive information including documents that now sheds new light on the president's service record. 60 minutes has...
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john kerry is not cutting it. >> he should have bill clinton in his ear the whole time the explainer in chief. i think if bill clinton, i think he should probably bring big bird with him. >> didn't big bird get fired? >> big bird, get a safe house. do it now. >> the bromance lasts until november. >> my advice is for joe biden. do not try to overwhen sate by going in there charging like the bulls of pam plo na in your debate. the only thing that may be worse than an overly passive barack obama is an overly aggressive joe biden. >> a bull in a china shop maybe. >> maybe. listen, if he's hard to control when he's on script, just imagine him unscripted in a debate. >> but the american people still like him. >> yeah. >> still like him. >> he's a likable guy. >> he's a regular joe. >> i think all republicans should love him because he is the gift that keeps on giving. >> so is paul ryan to some extent. go ahead, governor. >> it's been exactly one year since steve jobs passing. and my unsolicited advice today is for all of the mavericks in america, all the people that walked against the cro
john kerry is not cutting it. >> he should have bill clinton in his ear the whole time the explainer in chief. i think if bill clinton, i think he should probably bring big bird with him. >> didn't big bird get fired? >> big bird, get a safe house. do it now. >> the bromance lasts until november. >> my advice is for joe biden. do not try to overwhen sate by going in there charging like the bulls of pam plo na in your debate. the only thing that may be worse than an...
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john kerry's war record and turn it into a weakness. mitt romney's business experience, turn it into a weakness. try to peel out some undecided and independent voters. after a certain point, do not blow your whole campaign war chest going after people who may never end up going your way. instead, go back and try to find out how to inflate the turnout among your base using technology and micro targeting. i think the obama campaign has done extremely well with that. 2004, if you are going to look at a model, that is one to look at in terms of the strategy employed in this campaign, at least on the obama side. >> i doubt that karl is going every day to check his mail box for that check. [laughter] >> that is pretty safe. we are going to the middle and then we are going back over that way, to that side. >> i was just wondering, both candidates showed they are qualified to be president last night. i was wondering if you thought the demeanor was the main factor as opposed to the actual message that they were saying and the points they were ma
john kerry's war record and turn it into a weakness. mitt romney's business experience, turn it into a weakness. try to peel out some undecided and independent voters. after a certain point, do not blow your whole campaign war chest going after people who may never end up going your way. instead, go back and try to find out how to inflate the turnout among your base using technology and micro targeting. i think the obama campaign has done extremely well with that. 2004, if you are going to look...
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bush in 2004 when john kerry, his challenger was credited with a decisive win. kerry only scored 53%. this was the biggest win in recent memory and the largest audience in 20 years. it's a big deal. we shouldn't be surprised it would move the needle in key battleground ohio. megyn: on the day of the debate. wednesday afternoon, a tweet was sent out by i think it was director of the nbc polling asking folks opinions saying if romney doesn't perform well should he pull out of ohio? and that is something that we heard from others as well. now, you look at this, chris, today, a 1-point race. i guess the answer is no. he should not. no, he should not pull out of ohio, i guess. >> he could save money by pulling out of ohio or save money which quitting running. plus the staffers could go home and take it rest of the year off. that would be great savings. look, the narrative about this race has been so colossally stupid at so many points. and one of those things was that race what is over. this race is done. not by a long shot. megyn: i want to talk to you about florida
bush in 2004 when john kerry, his challenger was credited with a decisive win. kerry only scored 53%. this was the biggest win in recent memory and the largest audience in 20 years. it's a big deal. we shouldn't be surprised it would move the needle in key battleground ohio. megyn: on the day of the debate. wednesday afternoon, a tweet was sent out by i think it was director of the nbc polling asking folks opinions saying if romney doesn't perform well should he pull out of ohio? and that is...
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john kerry in 2004, you remember, won the first debate, against george bush. george bush similarly seemed very unhappy to be there as the president. bush comes back in the second one and wins, goes on to win. so lots of opportunity for the president to come back. but clearly let romney back into this. >> i guess, sam, how far is mitt going to go towards the middle? i mean, bill brings up the question of reproductive rights, the obama care question is certainly still, you know, how much is mitt romney going to embrace massachusetts, his legacy there, in the coming weeks? it's a sharp pivot. >> wasn't just during the debate. he was on fox news saying his 47% comments were completely wrong after doing a press conference the night after saying he stood by the basic premise of it. they are pivoting, the extent to which it goes i have no idea. the extent to which he said he never wrote that op-ed never go bankrupt we'll have the full turn there. to get back to the first turn, i don't think their contradictory attacks by the obama campaign -- it's not that they're pa
john kerry in 2004, you remember, won the first debate, against george bush. george bush similarly seemed very unhappy to be there as the president. bush comes back in the second one and wins, goes on to win. so lots of opportunity for the president to come back. but clearly let romney back into this. >> i guess, sam, how far is mitt going to go towards the middle? i mean, bill brings up the question of reproductive rights, the obama care question is certainly still, you know, how much is...
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probably like the day after john kerry lost. >> are any of them changing their votes? >> what's that? >> are any of them changing their votes? >> no, not the democrats, but there are a hell of a lot of independents and swing voters that are sitting there asking whether the president's up to the task. >> 5%. >> over the next four years. >> even if he gets 20% based on that -- >> donny, the election's not over. go to the hamptons this weekend and don't wear socks with your italian loafers. >> i stopped after labor day. >> go to palm beach. have you guys ever, though, seen such a turnaround? >> no. >> spirit is the word. spirit's the word. >> it's just unbelievable. >> one of the things that i think is overlooked about why this could matter so much is these are both really politically appealing, talented guys. they wouldn't be where they were without it. we all know what was politically appealing and personally appealing about the president. we see it almost every day. even if you don't like him, you've got to respect his politically skills in wisconsin yesterday. romney
probably like the day after john kerry lost. >> are any of them changing their votes? >> what's that? >> are any of them changing their votes? >> no, not the democrats, but there are a hell of a lot of independents and swing voters that are sitting there asking whether the president's up to the task. >> 5%. >> over the next four years. >> even if he gets 20% based on that -- >> donny, the election's not over. go to the hamptons this weekend and...
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romney is the extreme version of john kerry, right? >> jamal: right. was there ever a chance, though that we could go for five more weeks without something shaking up this race? it seems to me mitt romney was going to do something, some external factor was going to happen, there was no way we were going to go five weeks on the trajectory that we were on. >> yes, and we have the jobs numbers coming out, and the jobs numbers that will come out in the first week of november. and the media likes to write the horse race stories, and justify their ability to spend the rest of these five weeks on the campaign trail. so somebody was going to write the romney is having a comeback story, and romney just gave them a reason to do so. >> jamal: okay. reid wilson thank you. check out "the hot line." thank you for being here. i am jamal simmons, and this is the "bill press show." >> announcer: radio meets television, the "bill press show." now on current tv. ♪ >>i jump out of my skin at people when i'm upset. they're doing this this corruption based on corruption b
romney is the extreme version of john kerry, right? >> jamal: right. was there ever a chance, though that we could go for five more weeks without something shaking up this race? it seems to me mitt romney was going to do something, some external factor was going to happen, there was no way we were going to go five weeks on the trajectory that we were on. >> yes, and we have the jobs numbers coming out, and the jobs numbers that will come out in the first week of november. and the...
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>> this was john kerry today. bolder, declaring victory, relieing worried democrats. >> yesterday he showed me he's ready to leave this country. >> reporter: in pennsylvania today, the president tried to overcome doubts about his debate performance by swinging hard at his opponent. in a new line of attack, he failed to use last night but may wish he had, mr. bush accused senator kerry of more confing contradictions on iraq after first voting to authorize the war. some bush supporters at today's rally expected more from the president last night. >> i think he could have been better in another type of format other than the debate. >> reporter: and the white house advisers were spinning a bush debate victory, they were on the defensive today about the president's demeanor last night. the television coverage, he appeared at times irritated, dismissive, frustrated by his challenger. >> he's always been a president and a person who wears his emotion on his sleeve. >> reporter: if some in the white house thought it would
>> this was john kerry today. bolder, declaring victory, relieing worried democrats. >> yesterday he showed me he's ready to leave this country. >> reporter: in pennsylvania today, the president tried to overcome doubts about his debate performance by swinging hard at his opponent. in a new line of attack, he failed to use last night but may wish he had, mr. bush accused senator kerry of more confing contradictions on iraq after first voting to authorize the war. some bush...
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. >> momentum is a big thing in any political election campaign but as john kerry will tell you, you can win the first debate and get a big bump in the numbers and still end up losing if you're not careful. what would your advice be to governor romney? he's turned round all the negativity of the past few weeks, had a blockbuster evening. in many ways this could be a game changing night he had. how does he maintain the momentum? >> well, i think one of the keys to his momentum was that he's galvanized a lot of conservatives. he stood up and by and large, not completely, but by and large stood by the conservative principles, stood by that yes, there is a fundamental difference in the kind of government and the kind of america that i envision and what president obama does. and that was vitally important to get people energized. momentum is not just winning the undecideds, if you will, but it's energizing the legions of folks who should be voting for you who i can tell you up until last night, many of them were saying i may vote, i may vote and i may vote for romney but i'm not excited a
. >> momentum is a big thing in any political election campaign but as john kerry will tell you, you can win the first debate and get a big bump in the numbers and still end up losing if you're not careful. what would your advice be to governor romney? he's turned round all the negativity of the past few weeks, had a blockbuster evening. in many ways this could be a game changing night he had. how does he maintain the momentum? >> well, i think one of the keys to his momentum was...
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. >> perhaps, john kerry is a skilled debater, but john kerry also wants to be secretary of state. i wonder how tough he went in those sections because that was the charge against david stockman after ronald reagan in '84. that's why reagan, he was too tough on him. >> ifill: can we talk about body language? one of the thinks we remember is the way al exwoar crowded george w. bush and gave him the look or the way someone sighed, the way the two relate standing next to each other. did you get anything watching that? >> i'm not sure there will be a moment easy to repeat over and over again in the next several days, television shows. i do think romney looked aggressive, maybe a little over-aggressive, a bulldozer, kept going, kept going. i thought if maybe there was a slight advantage, at certain times the president looked a little peefd, a little stiff, maybe, but i wouldn't say there was a big difference between the two. >> woodruff: how did you see it? >> i thought romney didn't know when to take the foot off the pedal a couple of times. he just kept going. >> woodruff: he wanted t
. >> perhaps, john kerry is a skilled debater, but john kerry also wants to be secretary of state. i wonder how tough he went in those sections because that was the charge against david stockman after ronald reagan in '84. that's why reagan, he was too tough on him. >> ifill: can we talk about body language? one of the thinks we remember is the way al exwoar crowded george w. bush and gave him the look or the way someone sighed, the way the two relate standing next to each other....
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it's very much like to me what happened in 2004 when you recall the first debate with john kerry, george w. bush was a little peevish and snapish because he was coming in to the first debate as the guy who had been the president for the previous four years. >> cenk: that's an interesting point. you know i hate to give the right wing any kind of credence but they've been calling him a celebrity, and i don't think it applies in a lot of ways, but this may have been one case where like celebrities no one challenges them in their own little bubble. in their room nobody says you're wrong, this is not the right way to go. i wonder if he fell into that trap, joe, where he thought well i got this thing locked down. we're up by ten in ohio. my advisers say take it easy. no one is saying that i'm doing anything wrong in the four years. in the press they are but not in the room, as michael was pointing out did it lead to overconfidence. >> i don't know if overconfidence is exactly the right word, but we have a president who famously said he does not pay attention to cable tv news shows, and certain
it's very much like to me what happened in 2004 when you recall the first debate with john kerry, george w. bush was a little peevish and snapish because he was coming in to the first debate as the guy who had been the president for the previous four years. >> cenk: that's an interesting point. you know i hate to give the right wing any kind of credence but they've been calling him a celebrity, and i don't think it applies in a lot of ways, but this may have been one case where like...
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john kerry's war record and turn it into a weakness. mitt romney's business experience, turn it into a weakness. after a certain point, do not blow your whole campaign war chest going after people who may never end up going your way. instead, go back and try to find out how to inflate the turnout among your base using technology and micro targeting. i think the obama campaign has done extremely well with that. 2004, if you are going to look at a model, that is one to look at in terms of the strategy employed in this campaign, at least on the obama side. >> i doubt that karl is going every day to check his mail box for that check. [laughter] >> that is pretty safe. we are going to the middle and then we are going back over that way, to that side. >> i was just wondering, both candidates showed they are qualified to be president last night. i was wondering if you thought the demeanor was the main factor as opposed to the actual message that they were saying and the points they were making? they both had their own facts and statistics. i w
john kerry's war record and turn it into a weakness. mitt romney's business experience, turn it into a weakness. after a certain point, do not blow your whole campaign war chest going after people who may never end up going your way. instead, go back and try to find out how to inflate the turnout among your base using technology and micro targeting. i think the obama campaign has done extremely well with that. 2004, if you are going to look at a model, that is one to look at in terms of the...
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john kerry coached the president. rob portman coached the governor. we get the feeling that he will be back. carry remains an open question, doesn't it? >> i think the senator will still be the sparring partner from everything we're hearing from the obama folks. i talked to portman in the spin room for a while. and he said that we are not surprised. not one thing. the only thing that we are surprised that is what they didn't hear. know nothing of the 47% take, nothing of bain capital shimano attacks. they were surprised at how passive the president was, and he said frankly the president was not as good as me. lou: well, modest assessment, appropriately. a sparring partner should seek in some ways to emulate the real thing. sounds like he was on track. good to have you with this. thank you so much. as we mentioned. featuring the vice-president of contenders taking place next thursday in danville, kentucky. the day after president obama tried to recover cover romney reveling in a clear, decisive victory in last night's presidential debate. >> republican
john kerry coached the president. rob portman coached the governor. we get the feeling that he will be back. carry remains an open question, doesn't it? >> i think the senator will still be the sparring partner from everything we're hearing from the obama folks. i talked to portman in the spin room for a while. and he said that we are not surprised. not one thing. the only thing that we are surprised that is what they didn't hear. know nothing of the 47% take, nothing of bain capital...
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. >> john kerry. >> john kerry won the debates. he also did not end up being president. >> yeah, but, karen, i think what's different this time around is the absolute falsification that took place last night. it was breath-taking. it was almost -- well, it was shakespearean in terms of its performance. >> and you know what, martin, to that point, i think part of whether where i'd like to see the obama folks take this message is, we have already had a president who is very comfortable, and a vice president by the way, looking us straight in the eye and lying to us and sending men and women to war. do we want to have another president who can stand on the stage for 90 minutes and lie to the american people? i don't think that's what we want. i think that's dangerous for this country. i think they're really going to have to go hard at that. unfortunately, not a lot of people are reading the fact checks, right? we all know and a lot of the mi knew sha of the facts and where he was wrong and wasn't wrong, i don't know how much people ar
. >> john kerry. >> john kerry won the debates. he also did not end up being president. >> yeah, but, karen, i think what's different this time around is the absolute falsification that took place last night. it was breath-taking. it was almost -- well, it was shakespearean in terms of its performance. >> and you know what, martin, to that point, i think part of whether where i'd like to see the obama folks take this message is, we have already had a president who is...
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but do you think the president and his advisors, those helping him whether john kerry playing mitt romney or other aides underestimated mitt romney? >> i don't think so at all. we knew that mitt romney was preparing for this debate. the earliest candidate on record to do so. started preparations in july. did five mock sessions within 48 hours. took the entire week of the democratic convention down. and we saw him last year, remember, he participated in 20 debates last year. he bragged about winning 16 of them. and after he mowed down his republican primary opponents, he'd tell them to stop whining. so i think everybody knew what we were in for. we expected a good performance from mitt romney. but that's what it was. it was performance art. he locked himself into some bad positions that he took during the republican primary, tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, refusing to -- a dime for the wealthiest. and to talk about on the campaign trail in the weeks ahead. >> i assume in the next presidential debate the president will be certainly much more aggressive. that's just my assu
but do you think the president and his advisors, those helping him whether john kerry playing mitt romney or other aides underestimated mitt romney? >> i don't think so at all. we knew that mitt romney was preparing for this debate. the earliest candidate on record to do so. started preparations in july. did five mock sessions within 48 hours. took the entire week of the democratic convention down. and we saw him last year, remember, he participated in 20 debates last year. he bragged...
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we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today. obama is en route to a rally in wisconsin, but earlier today in denver supporters saw the obama we hoped to see last night. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner. mitt romney joining paul ryan this evening in my home state of virginia, but which mitt will show up? the mitt who won the debate by putting the president on the defensive, spoke directly to vote
we've seen mondale outperform president raleigh in 1984 and with john kerry defeated bush. neither kerry or mondale translated that into an election night win, although steve kornacki likes to think about a potential mondale president history. as the dust settles, they're back on the trail today. obama is en route to a rally in wisconsin, but earlier today in denver supporters saw the obama we hoped to see last night. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who...
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absolutely right, i think it's a striking analogy but guess what, john kerry lost by the same amount he was trailing before that debate. so that gets to the question whether debates really have, whether they really matter that much. and i went back and looked at every debate and every poll before and after since 1960, and the only candidate who gained substantially from debates, jerry ford who blew the biggest debate night of his career. so i'm skeptical, particularly with a rather small group of persuadeables, even though mike murphy may be right i'm skeptical this is really going to change the playing field a lot. >> rose: mike murphy, how would you convince him. >> i think what happens now is romney has a huge opportunity because what happened tonight is not really a static thing, it's part of a dynamic process. so now, obama will fight off the process stories for a while. there's new interest in romney. they saw a guy tonight that a lot of the country would see romney through the filter of advertising saying wait a minute this is an interesting guy. the romney campaign is going t
absolutely right, i think it's a striking analogy but guess what, john kerry lost by the same amount he was trailing before that debate. so that gets to the question whether debates really have, whether they really matter that much. and i went back and looked at every debate and every poll before and after since 1960, and the only candidate who gained substantially from debates, jerry ford who blew the biggest debate night of his career. so i'm skeptical, particularly with a rather small group...
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john kerry prepared with all the answers mitt romney given. i'm not sure practice is really the question here. i think the bigger question was, were there things that happened in the debate last night that could come back to haunt governor romney. in his own voice he said the medicare plan he has is to move to voucher system. we haven't had him on the record to the camera saying that yet. there were definitely things that happen. i agree with ed, that 58 million people did watch us on tv. but half the people who will vote didn't watch on tv. a lot will do with how the campaigns both used what was said last night in the coming 33 days. megyn: michael doesn't seem, you know, that concerned about it, ed. we've seen a lot of folks on the left from obama's team, obama's team and other who support him going after everybody. from mitt romney to the moderator, really going after jim lehrer, saying where was he? he needed to take more control. we had even chris wallace on fox news last night thought he did inadequate job. discussion among the anchors,
john kerry prepared with all the answers mitt romney given. i'm not sure practice is really the question here. i think the bigger question was, were there things that happened in the debate last night that could come back to haunt governor romney. in his own voice he said the medicare plan he has is to move to voucher system. we haven't had him on the record to the camera saying that yet. there were definitely things that happen. i agree with ed, that 58 million people did watch us on tv. but...